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Calea zacatechichi / Zakatečiči / Mexican dream herb
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| Sinuhet |
Pokud je psychotropni reporty beztak budou na errowid.org.
Ja ji znam jen jako adaptogen. |
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| Entheogen |
| Aha, taky je k dispozici na salvej.cz, zabyvam se snenim, sbiram informaci o zacatechichi, kdyby se nekdo podelil o zajimave prakticke zkusenosti - budu rad. Asi zalozim trochu specializovanejsi forum na entheogeny a jejich rozumne vyuziti aby v tom nebyl zmatek. |
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| Entheogen |
Jo mimochodem, z calea zacatechichi se dela caj 1g na 1kg lidske vahy. Takze hrst do konve pro jednoho cloveka, kdyz chcete se s Ni seznamit vice. Ale radzi davejte min nez vic, neprehanejte to, sice je to lekarska rostlina, ale jak vite i buprofen ve vetsim mnozstvi je nicmoc.
Tento tyden napisu si clanek o Ni... |
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| magickland |
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Původní příspěvek od Entheogen
Jo mimochodem, z calea zacatechichi se dela caj 1g na 1kg lidske vahy. Takze hrst do konve pro jednoho cloveka, kdyz chcete se s Ni seznamit vice. Ale radzi davejte min nez vic, neprehanejte to, sice je to lekarska rostlina, ale jak vite i buprofen ve vetsim mnozstvi je nicmoc.
Tento tyden napisu si clanek o Ni... |
Hihi, už jsi zkoušel pít 1 gram na svou váhu? A po pravdě :-)
A jaké to bylo pití? :-) |
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| Krychle |
Tuhle rostlinku, kvuli jejim udajnym ucinkum, mam uz nejakou dobu doma. Objednal jsem si ji z Chicaga z e-shopu iamshaman.com naprosto stejnym zpusobem, jako probiha objednavka semen. Bylinka prisla (spolu s ni jsem objednaval cistou guaranu, syrskou routu a celastrus paniculata + jako bonus 6x extrakt salvie) a tak prvni na rade byl test. Na prebalu navod jak uzivat, takze jsem uvaril caj a ubalil brko. Upozornuju, ze ten caj je neuveritelne horky a doslova nepitelny. I par listecku dokaze z hrnku vody udelat nepozivatelnou tekutinu. Mel jsem to problem pit i se zacpanym nosem.:) Brcko chutnalo prekvapive dobre, velice prijemne se kourilo, chut neskrabava se zvlastnim nadechem typickym pro tuhle rostlinku. Vsechno tohle jsem pozil nejak pred spanim. Jediny vysledek (a to pokazde ze 3 testovani) byl to, ze se nedalo usnout. Clovek byl tak zvlastne "na vode", ale vsechno jen decentni pocity. Zadne zbystreni, ci lepsi schopnost zamerit mysl, uvolneni mysleni nebo cokoliv jsem behem nasledujiciho vecera nepocitoval. Jediny pocit, ktery jsem z toho mel bylo to, ze priste uz ne, ze je daleko prinosnejsi se vyspat. Rano zadne nasledky, jako treba boleni hlavy ci otupelost.
To je asi vse z praktickeho uzivani. Vysledek by byl nejspis jiny, pri poziti daleko vetsich davek, ale 1 cajova lzicka na hrnek je fakt hodne a cele brko je taky tak nejak na hranici. Resenim by mohla byt pryskyrice, kterou na tom serveru take nabizeji.
Jinak tady je text z iamshaman.com, stejne jako posledni fotka:
Calea Zacatechichi (Dream Herb/Leaf of God) is a plant used by the Chontal Indians of Mexico to obtain divinatory messages through dreaming. Traditionally the plant was drank as a tea while a cigarette was smoked before bed, bringing relaxation and fluidity to mind and body, ushering in an easy and deep sleep during which the dreamer will find the gates to the dreamscape gently opened.
FACTS REGARDING CALEA ZACATECHICHI:
the Oneirogenic (Dream-Inducing) Herb
Used by the Chontal Indians of Oaxaca as a tea, believed to clarify the senses. Emboden says they roll cigarettes from the leaves, lie down to smoke quietly, drinking the tea as well. The feeling of well-being is said to persist for a day or more with no unpleasant side effects. Leaves show some experimental antiatherogenic and CNS depression activity. The plant contains 0.01% of a crystalline alkaloid, C21H26O8.
(James Duke, Handbook of Medicinal Herbs, CRC Press, page 86)
In 1968 a naturalist, Thomas MacDougall, working among the Chontal Indians, reported a "secret" plant that is made into a tea or infusion and consumed in solitude while a cigarette of the same leaves is smoked. This produces a feeling of well-being that continues for one or more days. It is said that Calea promote a repose and one hears one's own heart and pulse beating.
(Wm. Emboden, Narcotic Plants, revised ed., Collier Books, pgs 33-34)
MacDougall has recently reported that the Chontal Indians of Oaxaca, who "believe in visions seen in dreams," employ this sacred plant to induce hallucinations. Crushed dried leaves are infused in water, and the resulting tea is imbibed slowly, after which the native lies down in a quiet place and smokes a cigarette of the dried leaves of the same plant. The Indian knows that he has taken a large enough dose when a sense of repose and drowsiness is experienced and when he hears his own heart and pulse beats. The Chontal medicine men, who assert that this plant is capable of "clarifying the senses," call it thlepelakano or "leaf of god."
(Schultes & Hofmann, Botany & Chemistry of Hallucinogens, page 313)
Calea zacatechichi is a plant used by the Chontal Indians of Mexico to obtain divinatory messages during dreaming. In human healthy volunteers, low doses of the resins administered in a double-blind design against placebo increased reaction time and time-lapse estimation. A controlled nap sleep study in the same volunteers showed that Calea resins increased the superficial stages of sleep and the number of spontaneous awakenings. The subjective reports of dreams were significantly higher than both placebo and diazepam, indicating an increase in hypnagogic imagery occurring during superficial sleep stages. The use of plant preparations in order to produce or enhance dreams of a divinatory nature constitutes an ethnopharmacological category that can be called "oneiromancy" and which justifies rigorous neuropharmacological research.
Whenever it is desired to know the cause of an illness of the location of a distant or lost person, dry leaves of the plant are smoked, drunk and put under the pillow before going to sleep. Reportedly, the answer to the question comes in a dream. The human dose for divinatory purposes reported by the Chontal informant is a handful of the dried plant.
A collection of interviews and written reports concerning the psychotropic effects of these preparations on 12 volunteers has been published. Free reports and direct questioning disclosed a discrete enhancement of all sensorial perceptions, an increase in imagery, mind thought discontinuity, void flux of ideas, and difficulties in retrieval. These effects were followed by somnolence and a short sleep during which lively dreams were reported by the majority of the volunteers.
These results show that zacatechichi administrations appears to enhance the number and/or recollection of dreams during sleeping periods. The data are in agreement with the oneirogenic reputation of the plant among the Chontal Indians. all this suggests that Calea zacatechichi induces episodes of lively hypnagogic imagery during SWS stage 1 of sleep, a psychophysiological effect that would be the basis of the ethnobotanical use of the plant as an oneirogenic and oneiromantic agent.
(Jose L. Diaz, et al, Psychopharmacologic Analysis of an Alleged Oneirogenic Plant: Calea zacatechichi, J. Ethnopharmacology, 1986, v.18, pgs 229-243) |
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| bonkwodny |
| prave som si objednal 10g salvie od salvia3@post.sk a chlapik mi poslal dream herb ako bonus tak uvidim co to da... |
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| Entheogen |
| Pije se to jednoduse. Metoda se naziva vlacek. Do hrnku se nalejva supermagafatalni vyvar calea, do druheho hrnku pomerancovou stavu. Vydech calea RYCHLE vypit a okamzite poslat za ni dzus. Vyvar z 50g se da vypit na 3x s intervalem 15-30min. |
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| Chef |
| zkousel jsem ji hulit, ale zadny halucinogeni ucinky kourenim asi nema :mad: ...me to teda nic neudelalo....delal jsem z toho i caj, ten me trochu nakop, ale taky jsem nemel halucinace.....objednaval jsem ho z botanic.cz....k tomu i salvej listy a taky nic moc....chystam se na extrakt :frog: |
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Chef
mnoooo neviem ci to ma sposobovat halucinacie viac by ti o tom povedal enthogen myslim ze to vyvolava lucidne sny ale nevravim to naisto
enthogen inac ked spravis ten thread o enthogenoch tak tu prosim daj odkaz :crazy: |
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| Backster |
tak sa pridam aj ja do diskusie ohladom tejto rastlinky..
u priatelky som pil nieco z tejto rastliny, bolo to taktiez velmi horke, ale nevyzeralo to ako caj, malo to taku tmavo oranzovu farbu. Ona to mala z Peru od jedneho samana. Tak som to vypil a nastal u mna stav malatnosti a pocul som tlkot svojho srdca a upadol som do stavu kedy sa mi vstko premietalo pred ocami, vsetky vspomienky aj dobre aj zle.. prebral som sa uplne odpocinuty a vyrovnany som vsetkym, odrazu som nemal depresiu a vnimal som vsetko pozitivne :) nic ako bolest hlavy, alebo pnutie na zvracanie som nemal.
Tak to je moj zazitok, dufam, ze som vam pomohol. Tento napoj sa mi velmi zapacil a coskoro si asi objednam rastlinku. |
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